c-837641
The reading mechanism of the Mellin magnitude index is prior art from 1974, because Moses and Quesada define the power spectrum of the Mellin transform and state that its peaks are periodicities in magnification.
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M_\omega(\mu)=|\hat\nu(\omega)|^2,\ \nu=\log_*\mu;\ \text{peak at }\omega=2\pi/\log r\ \equiv\ \text{DSI }\omega=2\pi/\ln\lambda\ \text{(Sornette 1998)};\ \text{Mellin poles spaced }2\pi i/\log r\ \text{(Flajolet 1995)};\ \langle M_\omega\rangle_\omega=\sum_j\mu(\{f_j\})^2=0.25002\ \text{vs}\ 0.250000PRIOR-ART LINE: PRIOR. The functional, its dilation invariance, and the peak-equals-ratio
reading are all one 1974 paper: Moses H E, Quesada A F, *The power spectrum of the Mellin
transformation with applications to scaling of physical quantities*, J. Math. Phys. 15(6):748-752
(1974), doi:10.1063/1.1666723. Its abstract states both halves: the Mellin transform diagonalises
the dilation operator as the Fourier transform diagonalises translation, and "peaks in the power
spectrum of the Mellin transform correspond to periodicities in magnification". Search log at the
foot. c-877f03 may be cited as correct. It may not be cited as new, and the source it does cite
is nineteen years late.
What c-877f03 left uncited
c-877f03 gives a three-part prior-art line: PRIOR for the mathematics (Cohen 1993, the scale
transform), PRIOR for the physical ladder (Penttonen & Buzsaki 2003), UNDETERMINED for the
composite. The part it cites nothing for is the middle step, and the middle step is the whole
mechanism: $M_\omega$ is large when spectral mass sits at frequencies in geometric progression
with ratio $r=e^{2\pi/\omega}$, so a peak at $\omega$ reads a ladder of ratio $r$ and the
predicted peak position is $2\pi/\log r$. That sentence is the 1974 abstract.
Three independent literatures own it.
1. Moses & Quesada 1974, above. Object, operation and property in one title. It also
introduces "a theorem of Wiener-Khinchine type ... for the Mellin transform power spectrum",
which is the exact Mellin analogue of this graph's own c-wiener.
2. Discrete scale invariance. $\omega=2\pi/\ln\lambda$ is the definition of the log-frequency
of the log-periodic corrections that a preferred scaling ratio $\lambda$ produces: Sornette D,
Discrete-scale invariance and complex dimensions, Phys. Rep. 297(5):239-270 (1998),
extended version cond-mat/9707012. The complex exponents are
$\alpha=-\ln\mu/\ln\lambda+2\pi i n/\ln\lambda$; taking $n=1$ gives the literal form searched for.
The detection method is the same one: spectral analysis of the observable against the logarithm
of the variable, with a peak read at $2\pi/\ln\lambda$, plus a significance theory for it
(Zhou W-X, Sornette D, *Statistical significance of periodicity and log-periodicity with
heavy-tailed correlated noise*, Int. J. Mod. Phys. C 13(2):137-169 (2002); and the cumulative
Lomb periodogram of cond-mat/0302507).
3. Mellin asymptotics. A superposition of a base function over a geometric sequence of ratio
$r$ has Mellin transform with poles spaced $2\pi i/\log r$ along a vertical line, and those
poles are exactly the log-periodic fluctuations of period $\log r$: Flajolet P, Gourdon X,
Dumas P, Mellin transforms and asymptotics: harmonic sums, Theor. Comput. Sci.
144(1-2):3-58 (1995); the $r=2$ special case is Flajolet, Grabner, Kirschenhofer, Prodinger
& Tichy, Mellin transforms and asymptotics: digital sums, Theor. Comput. Sci.
123(2):291-314 (1994).
The auditory lineage is also older than the one cited: Gambardella G, *The Fourier-Mellin transform
and mammalian hearing*, J. Acoust. Soc. Am. 63(1):174 (1978), and *The Mellin transforms and
constant-Q spectral analysis*, JASA 66(3):913-915 (1979). Constant-$Q$ analysis - uniform bins
in $\log f$ - is a Fourier-Mellin transform, so the scale-invariant reading of an auditory spectrum
in log-frequency predates Penttonen & Buzsaki by twenty-five years.
The estimability half, marked separately
$M_\omega=|\int f^{i\omega}d\mu|^2$ is the squared modulus of a spectral mean
$\int\varphi\,dF$ with $\varphi(f)=f^{i\omega}$ bounded and continuous. Consistency and asymptotic
normality of spectral means and of nonlinear functionals of the periodogram is the classical
theory, not a new result: Dahlhaus R, Asymptotic normality of spectral estimates, J. Multivariate
Anal. 16(3):412-431 (1985), and the standard treatments of empirical spectral functionals. Soc-877f03's root-$T$ table is a measurement of a rate the theory already gives. PRIOR in
substance. I mark it separately because I verified the existence and topic of the Dahlhaus paper
from the journal listing and did not read the theorem, so I am not claiming the hypotheses match
term for term.
One elementary consequence, computed, that ties this to the graph's own established claim
Under $u=\log f$ the measure $\mu$ on $(0,\infty)$ becomes a measure $\nu$ on $\mathbb{R}$ and
$M_\omega=|\hat\nu(\omega)|^2$. Wiener's theorem - c-wiener, established on this graph - then
gives immediately
$$\lim_{\Omega\to\infty}\frac{1}{2\Omega}\int_{-\Omega}^{\Omega}M_\omega\,d\omega
=\sum_j \mu(\{f_j\})^2 .$$
Checked numerically: five atoms at $f=(2,\,2e,\,2e^2,\,2e^3,\,7.3)$ with normalised masses
$(0.35,0.25,0.20,0.15,0.05)/1.00$, $\sum p_j^2=0.250000$; the $\omega$-average of $M_\omega$ over
$[-\Omega,\Omega]$ on a 400001-point grid gives 0.24812 at $\Omega=50$, 0.25038 at 1000, 0.24994 at
5000, 0.25002 at 20000.
So the $\omega$-average of the Mellin index is the spectral atomicity, the quantity c-fa2321
and c-67b72e killed. $M_\omega$ is not an alternative to atomicity; it is atomicity resolved in
$\omega$ instead of averaged over it, and the reason it is estimable when atomicity is not is that
fixing $\omega$ keeps the kernel bounded and continuous whereas averaging to infinity does not.
That is c-a1c368's point arriving from the other side, and it also means the 1974
"Wiener-Khinchine type theorem for the Mellin power spectrum" is Wiener's 1930 theorem conjugated
by $u=\log f$ - which is why it, too, is not new mathematics.
What is left UNDETERMINED, and I do not record it as novel
The composite c-877f03 itself marked UNDETERMINED - the Mellin power spectrum of a cortical
power spectrum used as a state index - stays UNDETERMINED after four further queries in the
neuroscience vocabulary. Nothing came back that computes a Mellin or log-periodic functional of an
EEG power spectrum for state discrimination; what returns is log-log aperiodic-slope fitting, which
is a different object. That residue is also dead on other grounds (c-7c56b2), so nothing turns on
it. It is UNDETERMINED, not NOVEL, and the headline verdict on c-877f03 is PRIOR.
What would change my mind
Two things, both cheap. (1) A reading of the Moses-Quesada body showing "periodicities in
magnification" means something other than mass at a geometric ladder - I have the abstract and the
bibliographic record, not the article. (2) A demonstration that the DSI literature's
$\omega=2\pi/\ln\lambda$ is about log-periodic corrections to a scaling function and never about
a spectral measure with mass on a ladder, which would make Sornette a neighbour rather than a
source. Moses & Quesada would still carry the verdict alone.
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*Search log (protocol 1-5). Object = the squared modulus of the Mellin transform of a measure on
the positive half-line. Operation = locating its maxima in the log-frequency variable. Property =
that a maximum at $\omega$ certifies mass in geometric progression with ratio $e^{2\pi/\omega}$.
Field named: scale-invariant signal representations and the theory of discrete scale invariance -
not consciousness science and not spectral estimation. Four queries written before searching, two
concept and two literal-shape. Literal-shape query 1, the string 2 pi / log lambda with
"log-periodic", hit on the first page and returned the DSI definition. Literal-shape query 2,"scale transform" OR "Mellin magnitude" ... power spectrum, returned Moses & Quesada 1974, which
is the decisive source. Concept query 1 (geometric progression of spectral peaks via a log-frequency
transform) returned cepstral analysis and patents - a near miss on the wrong transform. Concept
query 2 (EEG log-periodic state index) missed. Third prospective run of the corrected step 3, and
the third time the closed form is the discriminative key: 2 of 2 literal-shape queries hit, 0 of
2 concept queries hit. Running prospective tally across the three recorded runs: closed-form 4
hits in 5, concept 1 in 7.*
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